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- March 7, 2002
- Critical Portions of Flight 587 FAA Tapes (all in mp3
- by Victor Trombettas
- 1. This
is the whole sequence from 1415:51 To 1416:25 on the Local Control
Tape. There are no clear communications with AA 587 on this
tape in this sequence because they've already been handed off
to JFK Departure Control. There are "noises" in this
portion that could be from AA 587 as I'll elaborate below.
- 2. This
is the whole sequence from 1415:37 to 1416:11 on the JFK
Departure Control Tape where AA 587 had been handed off to JFK
Departure Control from Local Control Tower and had made their
last clear transmission at 1415:42. Notice the crew member's
extended "uuhh" at the beginning of his transmission;
as is he is possibly distracted by something. The first lateral
movement has already occurred and the airframe rattling has been
heard on the CVR according to NTSB data.
- 3. This
sound is from 1415:52 on the Local Control Tape and tagged by
the FAA as unintelligible.
- It is exactly the same utterance
as the first part of this
phrase from the JFK Departure Control tape occurring at the
same time on both tapes. The FAA calls this phrase "nice
game". After careful analysis ... this phrase is a rushed,
"try escape". The similar phrase on the Local Control
tape is just "try e..". What cannot be denied is that
the "try" is on BOTH tapes at the same time and that
the pilot(s) who made this call interrupted the Tower. It seemed
very rushed. If this is AA 587 and is a sign of trouble, it places
their distress even further from the NTSB's focus on the 8 second
period. A full 12.5 seconds before rudder failure. Also, "escape"
is a rare, but established emergency cockpit maneuver that pilots
receive simulator training on once a year. Engaging this maneuver
requires the Pilot to literally call it out in the cockpit.
- 4. At
1415:59, this noise is on the JFK Departure Control Tape.
This is the start of the 8 second sequence that ends with the
death of the FDR. The plane crashes 10 seconds after that.
- 5. Next in the sequence, are the 1416:00
to 1416:03 "noises". Here
are the ones from Local Control. The FAA's Local Transcript
does not even list these noises.
- 6. Here
are the ones from the same time frame, 1416:02 to 1416:03,
but from the JFK Departure Control Tape. This is the phrase that
many people feel includes the word "control" preceded
by "losing" or "out of". Some folks have
said the noise that quickly precedes "losing control"
is "mayday". Mayday is harder to hear ... but it could
fit the noise pattern. Don't try to interpret this sound too
hard. Just listen to it. Keep in mind the NTSB has said that
at this time on the CVR they have heard the crew making comments
about "losing control". So what's the big deal with
us confirming it? It begs the question, why the distortions?
What has happened to the plane when they haven't yet lost the
tail? And even if they did ... why would that so distort
their communication when the radios are on a protected electrical
- 7. The
final "noise" possibly from AA 587 ... at 1416:10
(7 seconds before the crash); many have said they hear this as
a fast "mayday". Not easy to make out, for sure. However,
the FAA's JFK Departure Control Transcript does not list this
last noise. But this noise ends a 19 second time frame on the
JFK Departure Control tape that had 5 "noises" or "unintelligible"
sounds with no communications from Control or other planes. No
where else in these transcripts will you find so many noises
in so short a time. The mathematical probability that these are
noises from AA 587 is very high indeed. Even the NTSB's George
Black Jr. found these sounds to be interesting back in November,
and he noted they occurred at the time AA 587 was losing control.
- Again, the significance is twofold:
- 1. These noises started at 1415:51 ...
12.5 seconds before rudder failure.
- 2. What affected and distorted the communications
- Victor Trombettas
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